What is the difference between porsche c2 and c4
A 4-wheel drive is an amazing dry road car. The C4S is looks only as it is far heavier. In a I much prefer the C4, as the weight penalty is far more modest. I do not find any maintenance costs difference between a C4 and a C2. The AWD parts are essentially maintenance free. I do not believe the C2 is more fuel efficient at least that one can notice.
The C4S does come with the sport suspension as stock and is in the US version 10mm lower. C4S also gets the larger TT steel brakes. If you are going to compare then use apples and apples - a C2 or C4 vs C4S same model year with the same engine. Regardless what's said, I would prefer C4S for looks and take it any day over C2 if money is no object.
C4S are also harder to find. I wouldn't disccount the C4 as merely a feature that helps in the snow. I find the C4 very planted and sure-footed. Its a different feeling from the C2 and in rainy weather its a noticable feature. I don't think the modest extra weight has any noticable difference in performance for most drivers.
But if you go by what most reviewers say, including the British Top Gear show, they typically agree that the C2 is the Carrera they'd buy. I also love the silver badge and calipers. Also the '99 was hand built with e-gas, hp I know 4 hp and has a stronger chassis.
Another consideration that may or may not have a slight influence on your decision, is that the C4 looses a lot of the luggage space. My 98 C2 is my everyday car and I can fit my suitcase perfectly in the luggage space.
I don't think it would fit in the C4. The C4S also carries lbs more weight than a C2 of the same year the reason why it needs the bigger turbo brakes. With its additional weight in front and wider rear rubber in the C4S, it also understeers pushes a lot more than a C2 in the corners.
I agree with the comments above about choices. If you really want the turbo styling or have to drive in snow, get a C4S. Otherwise, buy the faster car: the C2. Performance stats from various road tests is not the way to wisdom here.
These models are so close that individual differences between cars, test venue and the weather of the day makes more of a difference than the letters on the engine lid. Trying them out is the only way to rate them according to your own priorities. I love the C4, but would consider a C2 if I was looking for a nice-weather-only car. More communicative steering in the C2 makes it more fun to drive at moderate speeds. The C4 needs more speed and chassi load to come alive. C4S is heavier, slower and less balanced in my opinion.
Much more expensive, but holds its value better. And most people love its looks. It can be cured. I own a '99 Carrera 4, and it's a great car. As said previously, the only maintenance difference is the need to change the front differential oil, but it's once every 60k miles.
There are some different part numbers - transmission, axles, etc. There were some differences in standard equipment. At least on a '99, here is what is standard equipment on a C4 that you'd have to pay extra for on a C The weight penalty vs. I understand I can't do donuts or powerslide unless it is a full four-wheel drift , but you can really hustle cross-country in a C4.
You can really lean on the security and idiot-proof handling. The true test it to drive both. If you can't tell the difference or you prefer the C4 , buy the C4. Because the day you NEED to tell the difference, it may be too late. This is Autocar's inaugral review of the C4 back in October Quote:. Peter Robinson reports. Your fingers convey the information the instant you turn the wheel.
The steering is heavier, meatier, less sensitive. Not much, but enough of a difference to be immediately discernible to hands acquainted with the rear-drive Carrera. The distinctions grew the longer we played with the Carrera 4 on the wonderfully demanding roads surrounding Porsche's Weissach proving ground. A bit more steering lock, a sense of mild understeer in a second-gear hairpin. Extra steering effort as increasing lateral forces amplify steering loads through a fourth-gear sweeper.
A fraction less self-centring. Finally - and prepare for the ongoing arguments - a perception that this steering is actually more involving than that of the Carrera 2.
It takes no more than a couple of corners to fall in love with the C4. It's a normal , only better. More stable, especially at the high speeds the Carrera so quickly attains, less nervous in strong crosswinds, and even more consistent in its dynamics. At first it seems slightly less agile, because wheel movements are bigger, but experience reveals that its handling is actually more neutral, less oversteery. Experimentation with the PSM reveals that the C4 responds to a smooth driving style and minimises the need for driver reactions, making it more relaxing to drive than the C2, not least a very high speeds on the autobahn.
All the driver understands is that the nose is less prone to pushing wide. The engine management system is set up so that if you lift off suddenly in a bend, a degree of torque is maintained to smooth out the weight transfer and reduce the car's reactions.
It all makes for a supercar that is as failsafe as any, yet remains fun to drive quickly, the electronics doing their job so unobtrusive that most drivers won't even notice, unless they attack corners with arms flailing.
Even then, it's effectively impossible to throw the C4 off balance, though not even the C4 can defy the laws of physics. The choice between C2 and C4 remains as complex as ever. The C4 is undoubtedly the more talented car, exuding an invincible air that many will find irresistible. PSM is an automatic control system designed to stabilise the car when driving in difficult conditions. The system comes as standard on the Carrera 4 and is now available as an optional extra on the Carrera.
In addition to ABS, ASR anti-slip regulation and ABD automatic brake differential , the system uses sensors to determine direction speed, yaw velocity speed of rotation around the vertical axis and lateral acceleration of the car.
PSM then uses these values to calculate the actual direction of travel. If the car over or under steers, PSM brakes individual wheels to get the car back on line. If braking isn't enough to correct the car, PSM intervenes in engine management via the MSR system engine drag torque control. Ignition, fuel injection and throttle position are modified to stabilise the car at optimum speed. PSM fully compensates for mid corner changes in load resulting from deceleration or braking, and is particularly valuable and accelerating with the rear wheels on different surfaces, where it improves traction and keeps the car on line.
When PSM is enabled, an indicator is illuminated in the cockpit. And if you just want to enjoy the pure pleasure of driving the PSM can be disabled, leaving only the automatic brake differential in place. PSM functions without impairing the agility of the in any way. It merely takes the heat of the driver exactly when it matters most. In critical situations PSM provides that extra bit of breathing space that can make all the difference.
Porsche now offers even more driver support in the form of four-wheel drive combined with the convenience of Tiptronic S. This configuration allows PSM to use the transmission system as a means of stabilising the car if required, making fro an even safer drive in difficult situations.
I was in the same position as the OP very recently. C2 would be a fine choice for those not wanting to push the car to it's limits, or those with serious driving talent or balls.
GT4 is was this post that made me ask! I understand what you are saying and I want to be sure that a C2 is not lets say inherently difficult for a non track driver. Traction control is separate but included in PSM. TC can be option or standard on it's own. Depends what year your C2 is.
C2s didn't have standard PSM until OK, its one I am going to see tomorrow, it looks interesting and the seller seems a good guy, has all history and number of his garage who maintained it so I can speak to them.
Its a 3. Thanks guys, what you are saying makes sense. I have felt my CLK slip a few times and you can get it back. In the wet I don't push it much anyway, you never know whats on the roads these days! I have no fear of FR layout, it's quite balanced and easy to drive with an average amount of skill and common sense.
RR however is not as forgiving, and the line between a beautiful drift and death is quite a fine one. Enjoyment for me is knowing how my car will respond, and having some degree of a safety net. The C2 I fear wouldn't have that, and it would take a lot of skill to drive it on the limit and feel that transition. BliarOut 72, posts months. The C4 simply reinvents physics in the snow. Geneve 3, posts months. Who buys a to drive in the snow? Fun perhaps, but they are both rubbish in the snow without 'winter' tyres.
Get real. It doesn't snow in England, well certainly not in the south. What happens is a couple of inches of white stuff appears, everyone panics, those who can't drive struggle to control their cars, public transport comes to a halt and by lunchtime it's gone. Go to Scandinavia, Eastern Europe or the Alps for real snow, where most people still have 2wd cars but swap to the corret tyres in winter. TopBear posts months. Went for a drive very early this morning, and it was raining torrentially at various points.
Would I have gone faster in a C4? Would I have had any more fun? I'm doubtful. Part of the pleasure in driving for me is measuring the steering, throttle and brake inputs. I don't believe pleasure and ultimate pace are necessarily the same thing.
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